tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.comments2023-04-26T06:39:51.182-07:00Naked TheologyJake Kampehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17386498663215004521noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-8443325135735868822011-06-28T09:28:04.703-07:002011-06-28T09:28:04.703-07:00Hey, thanks. I always appreciate the input. It h...Hey, thanks. I always appreciate the input. It helps me realize that people actually read my blog from time to time. Sometimes I feel like my thoughts are just drifting off into cyberspace. We've got a lot of work to do in the Church, but she's made it this far. She'll be OK if we just focus on what God called us to do. Peace & blessings!Jake Kampehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17386498663215004521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-56574938777057293222011-06-28T08:27:39.157-07:002011-06-28T08:27:39.157-07:00Wow Jake, I have been forced by the Spirit to reco...Wow Jake, I have been forced by the Spirit to recognize this same truth. I too was a card carrying Republican and even believed the logic in “Atlas Shrugged” touting the virtues of selfishness. The tough thing though, is trying to live a counter-cultural way of living to advance a Kingdom like this when the mainstream evangelical church is so focused on self. I also am not ashamed of America or ashamed of the mainstream church. But, I do find myself trying to get people I engage to see me for what I believe as a Christian before I just jump in there and tell them I am a Christian. I know if it was me and I was not a Christian, the stereotypical image of an evangelical would make me take everything said with a grain of salt.<br /><br />I know that for me, I am going to try my best to be a good citizen of the real Kingdom. And if the church will not initiate this kind of revolutionary way of living then you will see me continue to endure the ridicule of my Christian brothers and speaking out and voting for people and ideas that promote others over self.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-70586145875437019072011-06-18T11:13:01.020-07:002011-06-18T11:13:01.020-07:00Jake, Thanks for posting this picture of Bill. I a...Jake, Thanks for posting this picture of Bill. I and my family have many fond memories of him when we were kids.Peter Lelszhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14350508026019664300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-587259042521923872011-06-16T16:35:23.005-07:002011-06-16T16:35:23.005-07:00You're a good son.You're a good son.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-24275322968885759862011-05-21T07:24:44.144-07:002011-05-21T07:24:44.144-07:00hilarious. this just made my day jake.hilarious. this just made my day jake.Vickihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11192163799081251246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-67484421612492942542011-05-20T18:26:31.256-07:002011-05-20T18:26:31.256-07:00I love this post. I identify with this in good and...I love this post. I identify with this in good and bad ways. When I was "saved" I didn't feel very different (out side of just being kind of wary and confused) and it has been a long and hard journey and I couldn't understand what was wrong with me that I was not magically changed. I also went to a church where, once you got the "saved" stamp-you weren't very interesting anymore. Very real; honest. Thank you for this.Gina Cottrillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-21824204754606243242011-05-16T18:55:46.582-07:002011-05-16T18:55:46.582-07:00Jake,
Thanks for writing. I read your chapter to...Jake, <br /><br />Thanks for writing. I read your chapter today, and it was great. It really shows God teaching you through how you dealt with David. <br /><br />Thanks!Jeremy Myershttp://www.tillhecomes.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-62851835946677148452011-05-15T13:31:03.754-07:002011-05-15T13:31:03.754-07:00Thank you Jake, You can see a list of all the part...Thank you Jake, You can see a list of all the participants here:<br /><br />http://civitaspress.com/2011/05/15/the-practice-of-love-synchroblog/Jonathan Brinkhttp://civitaspress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-33292486100246948882011-05-13T17:00:26.019-07:002011-05-13T17:00:26.019-07:00Definitely some good points here! Sex in the conte...Definitely some good points here! Sex in the context of christian marriage is a topic which, though having been addressed by many, poses many challenges and questions to every couple I know (including myself and my husband). In addition to the navigating the mechanics of it all, moral dilemmas such as the ones you discussed arise. And on top of that we face issues of repressed sexuality, differing sex drives, and intertwining emotional needs. whew! Sex needs to be discussed more among families and within the church. With more realistic expectations and guidance from those who have gone before us, maybe more young christian couples can start having hot, wild, and freaky sex.Carolyn Kuhfusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789887829866530030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-70497346895503705522011-05-11T22:52:39.092-07:002011-05-11T22:52:39.092-07:00oral sex is illegal in the state of Texas, youre u...oral sex is illegal in the state of Texas, youre under arrest, you perv...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-25007073412482102722011-05-11T17:14:03.509-07:002011-05-11T17:14:03.509-07:00I have long felt that if the church were indeed to...I have long felt that if the church were indeed to become more open about sexuality, we'd have far fewer problems with teenage pregnancy, STDs, and farther reaching, divorce. When we pretend like it's not an issue, we create an environment of fear. Fear and sexuality were not designed to go together. Well said, friend.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01794581748548182809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-11988406866438528332011-05-07T10:18:58.250-07:002011-05-07T10:18:58.250-07:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.shemanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-92079092640164886612011-05-06T10:10:10.332-07:002011-05-06T10:10:10.332-07:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08898344279654975005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-4010998964784688262011-05-06T09:55:49.243-07:002011-05-06T09:55:49.243-07:00I did read it, nice piece - sorry, I just got dist...I did read it, nice piece - sorry, I just got distracted by hellspeak ;)Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08898344279654975005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-27972987026422548842011-05-06T05:38:56.580-07:002011-05-06T05:38:56.580-07:00Read my post just before this, Peter. That's ...Read my post just before this, Peter. That's the one I was referring to.Jake Kampehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17386498663215004521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-67185064529491162182011-05-05T23:03:06.424-07:002011-05-05T23:03:06.424-07:00From what little I've read, Chan IS sort of ob...From what little I've read, Chan IS sort of obsessed with hell, eh?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08898344279654975005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-61084418721470315932011-05-02T14:06:36.695-07:002011-05-02T14:06:36.695-07:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.Clayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026920912148498979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-48898151610790483022011-05-02T14:04:11.056-07:002011-05-02T14:04:11.056-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Josh andhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01361717232279470673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-29498956436817681862011-05-02T12:41:31.896-07:002011-05-02T12:41:31.896-07:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.Jake Kampehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17386498663215004521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-55676120406605672882011-05-02T10:55:49.712-07:002011-05-02T10:55:49.712-07:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.Claynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-71029568086112429202011-05-02T10:13:07.585-07:002011-05-02T10:13:07.585-07:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-26265534920522770692011-05-02T09:33:53.518-07:002011-05-02T09:33:53.518-07:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.Misplaced Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678088467204383307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-38367140428147369552011-05-02T09:31:42.298-07:002011-05-02T09:31:42.298-07:00This comment has been hidden from the blog.Misplaced Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678088467204383307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-37996888386397861762011-04-14T12:25:58.097-07:002011-04-14T12:25:58.097-07:00Interesting post Jake. You raised some good issues...Interesting post Jake. You raised some good issues for this discussion.<br /><br />Looking at the culture from God's perspective raises the interesting issue of the relation of norm and fringe amongst the citizens of the Kingdom of God. How is it ordered? It is ordered in and through God's love. This perspective shows the limitation and perhaps the illusory nature of the norms of the earthly city in terms of its arbitrary distinctions between higher and lower--center and periphery. <br /><br />I guess I'm Augustinian in the sense of the doctrine of the two cities. How difficult it is for the proud--living according to the standard of the libido dominandi--to be persuaded of the power of humility and love.<br /><br />Augustine claims that citizens of the heavenly city--the city of God, an eternal city that God founds and over which he is king--find themselves as strangers, or pilgrims, or wayfarers in the earthly city. God provides support for those who attempt to act according to his perspective, but it is difficult. Grant me chastity, but not yet! <br /><br />In this way, the faithful citizens of the kingdom are the "fringe" from the perspective of the earthly city--and will remain so. It is is a long and arduous task for the Christian who must nonetheless render to Caesar.<br /><br />I don't think the heavenly city or Kingdom of God or whatever is necessarily utopian, but expecting American culture to be in accordance with that way might be. It might be dangerous to do so--as all the great "dystopian" writers (Orwell, Zamiatyn, Huxley, etc.) suggest utopianism becomes in practice. Albeit, these writers speak of modern utopia which relies on modern ideologies that are largely godless. However, even in terms of transforming the earthly city from the perspective of God, humans are perhaps too sinful for it to be done well or done right.<br /><br />This post made me think of H. Richard Niebuhr's distinctions of Christ against culture, Christ above culture and Christ the transformer of culture. Each way his its pitfalls, but none diminishes the everlastingness of the city of God, nor the task of the humble and dutiful believer. A recent book by James Davison Hunter deals with these issues in an interesting way with regard to American culture--"To Change the World."<br /><br />Lastly, I am curious what you think is the relationship of divine revelation to natural philosophy? You mention Paul's discussion with Epicureans and Stoics. Is the culture and politics of the earthly city to be guided by "natural law" or "divine law"? What is the relationship of church and state? etc. I know this takes us far afield, but for me, these are vexing questions.John Presnallhttp://speleologicalreflections.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3848328163429656233.post-3842980916755852022011-03-31T09:35:10.617-07:002011-03-31T09:35:10.617-07:00Thank you, Kara. I'm blessed to read your com...Thank you, Kara. I'm blessed to read your comments. Prayers for you and your friend!Jake Kampehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17386498663215004521noreply@blogger.com